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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 07:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why isn&#039;t the international press telling us what has been a growing phenomenon in the last three years? THOUSANDS of Palestinian families fleeing the west bank and founding houses in the Israeli side of the green line? 

It seems that the press is far more concerned of Israeli building against the law than Palestinians building against the law...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why isn&#8217;t the international press telling us what has been a growing phenomenon in the last three years? THOUSANDS of Palestinian families fleeing the west bank and founding houses in the Israeli side of the green line? </p>
<p>It seems that the press is far more concerned of Israeli building against the law than Palestinians building against the law&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel Port</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel Port</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 23:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I missed that report.  I know the facts - my main sources of middle east news are JVP and B&#039;tselem.  However, I will say that spending time in the Palestinian blogosphere gives a totally different perspective that hit me.  You do need to get your voice on the air, Laila.

I attended a peace walk (and wrote about it here: http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2770484/the_seventh_annual_jewishmuslim_peace.html?cat=8)and met very interesting people.  I am still working on my panel, Laila - do you know yet if you will be here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I missed that report.  I know the facts &#8211; my main sources of middle east news are JVP and B&#8217;tselem.  However, I will say that spending time in the Palestinian blogosphere gives a totally different perspective that hit me.  You do need to get your voice on the air, Laila.</p>
<p>I attended a peace walk (and wrote about it here: <a href="http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2770484/the_seventh_annual_jewishmuslim_peace.html?cat=8)and" rel="nofollow">http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2770484/the_seventh_annual_jewishmuslim_peace.html?cat=8)and</a> met very interesting people.  I am still working on my panel, Laila &#8211; do you know yet if you will be here?</p>
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		<title>By: Ofernicus</title>
		<link>http://www.gazamom.com/2010/03/npr-settlements-and-objective-american-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-13646</link>
		<dc:creator>Ofernicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 19:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what&#039;s &quot;great&quot; about the media - it never gives you the full picture so it may not tell you why the Arabs are rioting, but it doesn&#039;t tell you that the settlement you were referring to is not even a settlement by definition.

Let&#039;s start with a reminer: Israel never took any &quot;Palestinian&quot; lands. In 1967 Israel conquered Gaza from the Egyptians and judea and Samaria from the Jordanians. This by itself raises the question where were the Palestinians until 1967 and why they were not fighting for freedom then, but that&#039;s a different issue. Specifically, the area in which most of the &quot;settlements&quot; around Jerusalem are, was legally a no-man&#039;s land, hence is not &quot;occupied territories&quot;, hence Israel can build there as much as wantrd or needed.

As for the so called 25% empty houses, even if we agree this correct, the reality is that Palestinians constantly build without permission and a whole lot more &quot;Jewish&quot; buildings were demolished than Palestinian buildings. Moreover, the Pa.estinians used to claim that the settlements in Gaza limit the Palestinian cities from growing, but what did the Palestinians do with those lands after Israel left? They built terrorist camps, not house for the poor civilians.

Third, just because you mentioned it, the bypass roads were built because Palestinian terrorists used to fire at Israeli cars. Believe me that no country enjoys wasting money on roads, but no one is going to agree to have civilians be a target for shooting. It was either building new roads or building more road blocks and making the Palestinians&#039; lives even more miserable...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what&#8217;s &#8220;great&#8221; about the media &#8211; it never gives you the full picture so it may not tell you why the Arabs are rioting, but it doesn&#8217;t tell you that the settlement you were referring to is not even a settlement by definition.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s start with a reminer: Israel never took any &#8220;Palestinian&#8221; lands. In 1967 Israel conquered Gaza from the Egyptians and judea and Samaria from the Jordanians. This by itself raises the question where were the Palestinians until 1967 and why they were not fighting for freedom then, but that&#8217;s a different issue. Specifically, the area in which most of the &#8220;settlements&#8221; around Jerusalem are, was legally a no-man&#8217;s land, hence is not &#8220;occupied territories&#8221;, hence Israel can build there as much as wantrd or needed.</p>
<p>As for the so called 25% empty houses, even if we agree this correct, the reality is that Palestinians constantly build without permission and a whole lot more &#8220;Jewish&#8221; buildings were demolished than Palestinian buildings. Moreover, the Pa.estinians used to claim that the settlements in Gaza limit the Palestinian cities from growing, but what did the Palestinians do with those lands after Israel left? They built terrorist camps, not house for the poor civilians.</p>
<p>Third, just because you mentioned it, the bypass roads were built because Palestinian terrorists used to fire at Israeli cars. Believe me that no country enjoys wasting money on roads, but no one is going to agree to have civilians be a target for shooting. It was either building new roads or building more road blocks and making the Palestinians&#8217; lives even more miserable&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Gates</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry Gates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 12:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice site! Is it New? I was looking for Palestinian Mothers this morning and it&#039;s down, I saw this above the header in my search engine for the first time, and I am sooo happy be see such a nice article about such an important subject, NPR&#039;s often confusing coverage of the facts on the ground in the middle east.

   gaza mom...... I really like the name, too.

  Sometimes I wish I was a Palestinian. NPR pisses me off sometimes and at other times I hear better commentary that seems quite nice and even handed. I think NPR is struggling for it&#039;s identity, but as the Name suggests, so does the character exhibit, National Public Radio in the US is a politically correct voice that has a strong funding from a not so politically diverse audience, although most seem to be liberals of some nature or another.

   Jennifer, I recoil when I hear that too, Why is a population of more Palestinians in Palestine a threat to Palestine? Perspective is so important in balanced news coverage, and taking one perspective as the position to exhibit, without representing the Palestinian sentiments is propaganda, right?

   The story line always goes this way;, Israel needs a two state solution to avoid being called an apartheid state, or , Arabs populations in Jerusalem will overtake Jews and ruin the nature of Israel as a Jews only Nation in it&#039;s own capital. WHAT THE HELL IS THIS if not very biased reporting? It should be banned! Is religious ethnic bigotry not illegal? East Jerusalem is NOT RECOGNIZED as a part of Israel anyway, by anyone except Israelis and their sayanim, but they are so few and only buoyed by their wealth and political influence as a result of such wealth, Bankers have decided to steal Palestine and lie like rugs on national public news. This can be changed by passing some&quot; passive aggressive&quot; hate crimes laws. Hate speech, even veiled in acceptable news jargon , is still hate speech, and is banned, Where the hell is Abe Foxman when WE need him??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice site! Is it New? I was looking for Palestinian Mothers this morning and it&#8217;s down, I saw this above the header in my search engine for the first time, and I am sooo happy be see such a nice article about such an important subject, NPR&#8217;s often confusing coverage of the facts on the ground in the middle east.</p>
<p>   gaza mom&#8230;&#8230; I really like the name, too.</p>
<p>  Sometimes I wish I was a Palestinian. NPR pisses me off sometimes and at other times I hear better commentary that seems quite nice and even handed. I think NPR is struggling for it&#8217;s identity, but as the Name suggests, so does the character exhibit, National Public Radio in the US is a politically correct voice that has a strong funding from a not so politically diverse audience, although most seem to be liberals of some nature or another.</p>
<p>   Jennifer, I recoil when I hear that too, Why is a population of more Palestinians in Palestine a threat to Palestine? Perspective is so important in balanced news coverage, and taking one perspective as the position to exhibit, without representing the Palestinian sentiments is propaganda, right?</p>
<p>   The story line always goes this way;, Israel needs a two state solution to avoid being called an apartheid state, or , Arabs populations in Jerusalem will overtake Jews and ruin the nature of Israel as a Jews only Nation in it&#8217;s own capital. WHAT THE HELL IS THIS if not very biased reporting? It should be banned! Is religious ethnic bigotry not illegal? East Jerusalem is NOT RECOGNIZED as a part of Israel anyway, by anyone except Israelis and their sayanim, but they are so few and only buoyed by their wealth and political influence as a result of such wealth, Bankers have decided to steal Palestine and lie like rugs on national public news. This can be changed by passing some&#8221; passive aggressive&#8221; hate crimes laws. Hate speech, even veiled in acceptable news jargon , is still hate speech, and is banned, Where the hell is Abe Foxman when WE need him??</p>
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		<title>By: Yonit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yonit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 00:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think those housing units should go up.  I don&#039;t think Arab families should be evicted from their homes just so the Israeli gov&#039;t can build more settlements there.  I truly believe those settlements are illegal and the Israeli government is in the wrong.

That being said, and in response to what Jennifer commented, Jews and African Americans have been discriminated against in many many instances.  The Holocaust is an obvious example, and the days of slavery and segregation here in the US is another example.  But you didn&#039;t often hear of African Americans or Jews stabbing, shooting, sending rockets, or having suicide attacks against the people who discriminated against them. 

I&#039;m an Israeli living in the US, and have been on the receiving end of discrimination and anti-semitism.  I&#039;d never think of retaliating.  I think one of the reasons that many people have a negative view of the Palestinians IS those attacks on innocent people.  I&#039;m not saying all the Israeli soldiers are innocent of personal attacks on Palestinians, and I don&#039;t justify that for a second. But I suppose the world looks differently at a situation when it&#039;s an army attacking vs. a suicide bomber...especially after 9/11.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think those housing units should go up.  I don&#8217;t think Arab families should be evicted from their homes just so the Israeli gov&#8217;t can build more settlements there.  I truly believe those settlements are illegal and the Israeli government is in the wrong.</p>
<p>That being said, and in response to what Jennifer commented, Jews and African Americans have been discriminated against in many many instances.  The Holocaust is an obvious example, and the days of slavery and segregation here in the US is another example.  But you didn&#8217;t often hear of African Americans or Jews stabbing, shooting, sending rockets, or having suicide attacks against the people who discriminated against them. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m an Israeli living in the US, and have been on the receiving end of discrimination and anti-semitism.  I&#8217;d never think of retaliating.  I think one of the reasons that many people have a negative view of the Palestinians IS those attacks on innocent people.  I&#8217;m not saying all the Israeli soldiers are innocent of personal attacks on Palestinians, and I don&#8217;t justify that for a second. But I suppose the world looks differently at a situation when it&#8217;s an army attacking vs. a suicide bomber&#8230;especially after 9/11.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 10:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, too, was seething. For me it was NPR&#039;s Talk of the Nation. Same subject. Mention of the &quot;demographic threat&quot; infuriates me. We in this country have dealt with both severe discrimination against both Jews and black folks. You&#039;d think people would see how disgusting and racist this &quot;worry&quot; is. No comment from the host or guests when the caller mentions this as a reaason to support Israel. I wrote. Hope it gets in the &quot;letters&quot;.

Thanks for blogging!

A few of my posts:

http://notanotherpoliticalblog-j.blogspot.com/2010/03/npr-diane-rehm-show-perspectives-on-us.html

http://notanotherpoliticalblog-j.blogspot.com/2010/03/npr-totn-tough-talk-between-us-and.html

http://notanotherpoliticalblog-j.blogspot.com/2010/03/settlement-announcement-biden.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, too, was seething. For me it was NPR&#8217;s Talk of the Nation. Same subject. Mention of the &#8220;demographic threat&#8221; infuriates me. We in this country have dealt with both severe discrimination against both Jews and black folks. You&#8217;d think people would see how disgusting and racist this &#8220;worry&#8221; is. No comment from the host or guests when the caller mentions this as a reaason to support Israel. I wrote. Hope it gets in the &#8220;letters&#8221;.</p>
<p>Thanks for blogging!</p>
<p>A few of my posts:</p>
<p><a href="http://notanotherpoliticalblog-j.blogspot.com/2010/03/npr-diane-rehm-show-perspectives-on-us.html" rel="nofollow">http://notanotherpoliticalblog-j.blogspot.com/2010/03/npr-diane-rehm-show-perspectives-on-us.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://notanotherpoliticalblog-j.blogspot.com/2010/03/npr-totn-tough-talk-between-us-and.html" rel="nofollow">http://notanotherpoliticalblog-j.blogspot.com/2010/03/npr-totn-tough-talk-between-us-and.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://notanotherpoliticalblog-j.blogspot.com/2010/03/settlement-announcement-biden.html" rel="nofollow">http://notanotherpoliticalblog-j.blogspot.com/2010/03/settlement-announcement-biden.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jamelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, too, heard that &#039;report&#039; on NPR. It was extremely disappointing. Conincidentaly, (on the same station,BTW), I listened to a BBC report today. The mayor of Jerusalem was on. And the interviewer really put his feet to the fire about the settlements being illegal, and against international law, etc. He even asked him if he would feel the same way if he were a Palestinian!

NPR&#039;s reporting really isn&#039;t up to the level it should be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, too, heard that &#8216;report&#8217; on NPR. It was extremely disappointing. Conincidentaly, (on the same station,BTW), I listened to a BBC report today. The mayor of Jerusalem was on. And the interviewer really put his feet to the fire about the settlements being illegal, and against international law, etc. He even asked him if he would feel the same way if he were a Palestinian!</p>
<p>NPR&#8217;s reporting really isn&#8217;t up to the level it should be.</p>
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		<title>By: brooke</title>
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		<dc:creator>brooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 16:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>laila -
  thanks for this post. i don&#039;t watch rachel maddow anymore for the very reason. liberal lesbian reporter says that she tells the real story about things.. geared towards me (very liberal) and my view points.. but then i hear her talk about the middle east.. if i&#039;d only watched her during december 08/jan 09 war on gaza i would assume that the palestinians were evil people. *sigh* there is very little objective american journalism about palestine and israel. i hate that.

but ej. can i point out it&#039;s not all of us. that many of us know what is really going on there. to that end i also know it&#039;s not all american journalism, but it seems like those sources with the biggest voices tend to report it the way npr and rachel maddow do. *sigh*

why can&#039;t media just say &quot;hey, we&#039;re western journalists and we&#039;re simply continuing to tell the story of palestine &amp; israel that we grew up with&quot;? it would be a lot better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>laila -<br />
  thanks for this post. i don&#8217;t watch rachel maddow anymore for the very reason. liberal lesbian reporter says that she tells the real story about things.. geared towards me (very liberal) and my view points.. but then i hear her talk about the middle east.. if i&#8217;d only watched her during december 08/jan 09 war on gaza i would assume that the palestinians were evil people. *sigh* there is very little objective american journalism about palestine and israel. i hate that.</p>
<p>but ej. can i point out it&#8217;s not all of us. that many of us know what is really going on there. to that end i also know it&#8217;s not all american journalism, but it seems like those sources with the biggest voices tend to report it the way npr and rachel maddow do. *sigh*</p>
<p>why can&#8217;t media just say &#8220;hey, we&#8217;re western journalists and we&#8217;re simply continuing to tell the story of palestine &amp; israel that we grew up with&#8221;? it would be a lot better.</p>
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		<title>By: ainee</title>
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		<dc:creator>ainee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 16:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We CAN balance Israel and Palestine, but it is entirely not up to us-- it is up to Israel and the United States.

The solution to this problem has to be a multi-state one, but look at the behavior of Israel-- razing 112 or so homes on the eve of multilateral peace talks. What a way to kick off a fresh new beginning.

Although I do not sympathize with violence that hurts innocent people, regardless of who perpetrates it, generally speaking, Americans do not understand the frustration and turmoil that festers after decades of oppression and discrimination, after decades of losing autonomy. Western journalists and the Israeli support lobby in the United States portray Palestinians as this mass of dirty poor violent and ignorant people. They completely dehumanize the oppression enforced on Palestinians by the Israelis by saying, Israel has a right to be there. That doesn&#039;t mean that it has a right to practice neocolonialism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We CAN balance Israel and Palestine, but it is entirely not up to us&#8211; it is up to Israel and the United States.</p>
<p>The solution to this problem has to be a multi-state one, but look at the behavior of Israel&#8211; razing 112 or so homes on the eve of multilateral peace talks. What a way to kick off a fresh new beginning.</p>
<p>Although I do not sympathize with violence that hurts innocent people, regardless of who perpetrates it, generally speaking, Americans do not understand the frustration and turmoil that festers after decades of oppression and discrimination, after decades of losing autonomy. Western journalists and the Israeli support lobby in the United States portray Palestinians as this mass of dirty poor violent and ignorant people. They completely dehumanize the oppression enforced on Palestinians by the Israelis by saying, Israel has a right to be there. That doesn&#8217;t mean that it has a right to practice neocolonialism.</p>
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		<title>By: NPR, Settlements, and Objective American Journalism. By Laila El-Haddad &#171; Kanan48</title>
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		<dc:creator>NPR, Settlements, and Objective American Journalism. By Laila El-Haddad &#171; Kanan48</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 08:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] NPR, Settlements, and Objective American Journalism. By Laila&#160;El-Haddad 2010/03/22    by kanan48    Via: Gaza Mom. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] NPR, Settlements, and Objective American Journalism. By Laila&nbsp;El-Haddad 2010/03/22    by kanan48    Via: Gaza Mom. [...]</p>
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